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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2021, 01:34:27 pm »
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  A rebuild question.  Anyone familiar with repairing the
sightglass that is missing parts on an engine like this? 
 
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What exactly would you like to know about sight glass repair?
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2021, 01:39:32 pm »
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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2021, 01:41:13 pm »
It steamed really well Wayne.  Congratulations.

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2021, 03:28:14 pm »
Regarding the sight glass repair...
I'd love to see a close-up photo of
a compete setup.  The upper and lower
ends are there (the lower is loose
but doesn't leak).  I will start to
look for a photo on my own but duties
call right now.  If you have one, great.

Thanks for the interest,
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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2021, 03:56:37 pm »
Hi Wayne,
could you post a photo of your broken water level? I will then see if I can help you.
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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2021, 04:14:43 pm »
For your viewing pleasure... the sight-glass end.

Hope you have an easy answer.

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2021, 08:16:00 pm »
Glad you finally steamed it up and got some video for us  ;D
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2021, 09:25:31 pm »
I like the sound it makes ticking over. I don't think mine does it. Nice video, thanks for sharing.
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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2021, 10:05:27 pm »
Jurgen....FYI, the lower sightglass fitting is now just a bit looser.
Oops, I barely touched it when cleaning.  Thankfully, it still steams
ok.  It will have to come out sooner or later.

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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2021, 06:59:31 am »
Hi Wayne,

as I see it, the water level of your machine is missing the pressure plate and the water level tube. I didn't understand exactly what was loose at the bottom connection. It can't be the connection to the boiler or you wouldn't have been able to run the machine. Therefore, I suspect that it is the small plate through which the tube is passed and to which the pressure plate is screwed. Once the pressure plate is screwed down, the problem with the loose part will be solved. However, I could be wrong about this. It is difficult to make a statement if you do not have the machine in front of you. I have attached a few pictures as examples of Falk water levels. Also links to the places where they were found.

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https://historytoy.com/spielzeug-Dampfspielzeug-Liegende-Dampfmaschinen-Falk-J

https://www.stefans-oldsmoky.com/falk/falk-sammlung-collection/

Pressure plates are offered here in Germany so now and then on ebay. But maybe you have the possibility to make them yourself, or you know someone who can make something like that. You can also make the water level tube yourself. If you do not know how to do this, I am happy to send you instructions.

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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2021, 11:47:56 am »
  Thanks for the pix, especially the one that matches my engine.
One difference - the guide rod under the piston rod does not
have a support at the far end.  Could yours be an earlier
version?  The smokestack looks simple - maybe I can make a
serviceable copy.  The exhaust and governor, I'd need a photo
from the other side, and a couple more of your sightglass
from differing angles.  Maybe I can cobble one together.
I'll also do more searching on the web.

  As to the lower part of the sightglass.  It has always been
loose.  Now more so.  At my last steaming it dribbled a bit but
not too bad.  The fact that the engine ran is a testament to
the person who designed the running parts of the engine.  It
is pretty easy to run - it even works a bit on my worn-out
68 year-old breath!  Is yours noisy, in a mechanical sense,
when running?

  I also finished the sightglass on my Weeden 661 - at 11pm.
Once you start it is tough to stop when the end is in sight(glass).
Check out the first run.



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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2021, 12:39:51 pm »
Hi Wayne,
unfortunately I can't provide you with any more pictures. The pictures I sent you were taken exclusively from the websides whose link I posted. I do not have a single Falk machine myself. I exclusively collect Doll & Co. Steam engines. Since I often have to deal with missing or defective water level glasses when restoring my machines, I have acquired some knowledge in the field. Even if the water gauges of Falk and Doll differ externally, the principle is the same. I am sorry that I cannot help you at the moment. However, I will be glad to hear how your project is progressing. Often it is the almost hopeless things that really drive us. Simple can anyone!!

I see you have done a great job on your Weeden.Looks very good and runs great. I have no worries that the Falk will soon be just as shiny and running well.
Thanks for posting the video.👍👍
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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2021, 01:32:22 pm »
  Thanks for your words of encouragement.  I'll
eventually find some good pix of the proper
sightglass installation.  Until than, it stays
as it is - or the engine will no longer run.

  I've added a video of my Doll - a number 511-3,
I think.  A sweet little engine, I thin it is
close to original.  Could you date it?  I might
be wrong on the video description.



Love my DOLL,
Wayne


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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2021, 02:08:42 pm »
A beautiful 511/3 you have there Wayne. Nice video of the machine running. I own a 511/2 myself and my machine is still missing the original chimney. Your machine is listed in the Doll catalogs from 1929 and 1937. However, the production period can be further narrowed down if your machine still has a Doll sticker. If this sticker is green with red DC, then the production period is between 1929 and 1936/37. If the sticker is black with gold DC, then the production was between 1936/37 and 1939. An overview of all Doll machines can be found here:

http://www.fleischmann-toys.de

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Re: To steam - or not to steam...that old engine
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2021, 03:18:30 pm »
A very big thank you.  Green w/red lettering it is.
I'll take it as around 90 years old.  A cute little
engine, my son says my mother would put it on the
fireplace mantle.  It would look good next to her
other antiques, especially her Chinese brass (pre-WW2).

Wayne