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Wilesco D430
« on: March 28, 2021, 02:17:43 pm »
Always found the D430 Portable Engine the most interesting of all their mobiles, as far as out of the box realism goes (the golden brass finish aside).

They´ve always been been a little too pricey for my taste though, so have been looking for a used one with a few issues, to keep the price within my range
One has to be careful how much one wishes for something i assume...
It would appear that i´ve just purchased one with not just a few flaws, but a fullblown case of dezink-like moisture damage all over.
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Anyway, at €99 i´m happy with it, and look forward to see how much i can fix, and how much that needs replacement.
(Am keeping my fingers firmly crossed for the boiler condition though, as it will severely damage my D430 budget if i have to replace that.)
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Jan
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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2021, 02:28:34 pm »
Yikes! At least it was cheap and you knew about the damage. Maybe stored wet with Esbit at some point...

I’m sure you may have spotted it, but looks like a chunk missing here

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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2021, 02:35:40 pm »
Yes, the first thing i noticed as well Nick.
Went very carefully through the pictures after that, before i decided to take a chance and click the BIN.

It does have some serious issues, but am keeping my hopes high that quite a bit of the damage can be fixed, and the replacement parts needed can be kept to a minimum.
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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2021, 03:52:10 pm »
Something like you have there Jan. I would make sure nothing's froze up and free. Run air through it, fix any leaks
do your repairs. Then I would get some black heat paint and do the whole thing. Bake it, call it good. Maybe do the
wheels red, that's all.
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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2021, 04:01:08 pm »
It´ll be black Tom :)
The only thing i don´t like about this model is the color, i don´t want it shiny and blinged out, its a workhorse.
It was decided many moons ago, back when i started looking, that if i ever found one it would be painted all black, as soon as it hit the doorstep here.
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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2021, 04:16:39 pm »
I read somewhere that Wilesco polished these brass wheel models then a coat of clear Lacquer to hold the shine. This is fine for a shelf queen but all my engines must work...the moment the clear runs across a dusty floor the clear would be scratched. I really like your plan to go black.

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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2021, 07:23:32 pm »
Oh my...
I have also been on the hunt for one of these for over a year now , you have lots of "opportunities" there , they are pricey but the right bargain will come around sometime.
Looking forward to seeing your progress 😊👍
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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2021, 09:27:10 am »
A small update:

It arrived yesterday, and is (almost) in the exact condition shown at the pics...so far so good.

When i tried to remove whistle and safetyvalve, they both came out with their bushings, so will have to get those soldered back in there, to give the boiler a proper hydrotest.
The engine was completely stuck, but after soaking in some some WD40 and thin oil for an hour or so, i was able to get that freed up.
Tested the engine with compressed air, and it runs good and strong in both directions.

Biggest problem right now, is that i can´t decide if my newly modded D405 wheels should go to this one instead, and then keep the tractor in original condition instead.
Have another Mamod tractor here, but it is a complete older TE2 with exhaustvalve, and would sort like to keep that one "on its feet".
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Jan
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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2021, 10:40:08 am »
  Neat looking engine...sorry for the zinc-pest problems.

  I read a recent suggestion to increase the strength
of these problem parts.  After carefully wiping away
loose crap, try allowing a 'thin' superglue to soak
into the part to make it stronger.  You may need to
sand it a bit for smoothness, then paint it as you
normally would.  I've done similar procedures on old
wood frames to save old fragile carvings.  I used a
syringe to inject the glue directly into the wood.
Once cured, the part is solid enough to work with.

Good luck,
Wayne


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Re: Wilesco D430
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2021, 12:24:22 pm »
The zincpest and dezink doesn´t really scare me much, especially on something like this, with every part needed being available from the manufacturer :)

Only theorizing with my restricted personal experience here, my firm belief is that it doesn´t really do diddly gluing them up...unless there´s some broken off part one wants to glue back on there.

I have kept 2 heavily damaged Mazak parts here for about a decade, done absolutely nothing to them, besides checking on their condition once every other year, and they haven´t changed at all since they entered here.

What i believe is that this is a simple chemical reaction, formed by two or more incompatible metals, which uses humidity/moisture as a catalyst, to expand and thereby break the material to pieces.
It is highly unlikely that this is an undiscovered perpetual motion formula, so if left in a dry environment, or when the chemical process has completed, there´s no more fuel left, and the deterioration will stop.

One could argue that glue will seal out any incoming moisture or humidity in the air, but so will a layer of paint or a clearcoat.
As long as the part is completely dried out before coating, that would most likely work to some extent.
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