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I have these and have a few more (have added another 3 legged horizontal and another basic horizontal like on the left of my family picture)

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Thanks, Nick.  I'd seen your collection.  Most impressive!  The horizontals on the left look identically laid out to the 1870's picture.  The beam is also correctly placed!  If my research proves correct, those engines, the center 3-legger to the left of the Young America, and the beam engine on the right are the engines in the display cabinet and are not Buckmans.  I also believe that the orange twin is not a Buckman, or a reproduction of one, but represents yet another manufacturer.  However, the design does date to the early 1870's.

If you compare parts on the center engine and the Improved Young America, would you judge them to be from the same manufacturer?

I'm assuming the long box is for the boat.  Does it have a Union Toy Mfg label on the end? 

My research is mostly before 1880, 1885 at the latest, so some of the other engines in your collection haven't shown up in my research.  The Buckman fire engine on the right did, but the 1872 patent for that engine and early etchings look a bit different from what you have.

I think you might understand why I'm desperate to find out why people have identified these engines as Buckmans.  I really don't want to get this wrong.