Two new German engines - need a bit of help

• Two new German engines - need a bit of help
  Posted by komet163b on 23 Dec, 2021 17:01
•   I received my engines from Morphy's Auctions - I'm shocked.
  The small DOLL, a Weeden clone, is electric and I've run it
  on air.  The big one is a bit of a sticky wicket.
  
    Anyway, I've added a photo.  The question I have regards the
  stuck valves.  The valve on the cylinder head and the water
  ram turn as intended.  The whistle, throttle, drain tap and
  water fill tap on the boiler will not turn.  I soaked them a
  bit with WD-40 and will do so again over the next few days.
  Is there anything else I should try?
  
  Wayne
  
  
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• #1 Reply
  Posted by RedRyder on 23 Dec, 2021 18:27
• Nice lot you got, Wayne!
  
  The electric Doll (Weeden clone) is pretty rare.
  
  Just keep soaking the stuck parts with penetrants for at least a week..
  
  Try Liquid Wrench or one of the other super penetrants.
  
  Then try to move them back and forth a little at a time.
  
  Best of luck with it.
  
  Gil
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• #2 Reply
  Posted by komet163b on 23 Dec, 2021 20:11
•   Thanks Gil.  I'll soon put up a video of the electric DOLL running.
  It's a screamer in spite of boiler leaks underneath.  The heater
  setup is a bit over complicated and is probably the cause of the
  leak.  Any info re model type/number and production years would be
  appreciated.
  
    Your suggestion to loosen the stuck valves on the bigger DOLL rings
  true.  Mostly, I need to be.....patient.  Info on model# and production
  dates would help. 
  
  Later,
  Wayne
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• #3 Reply
  Posted by Scorpion2nz on 23 Dec, 2021 20:56
• Well done on your Doll acquisition
  I have one also purchased from a online auction a few years ago .
  It gives me 3 “ table ‘ engineb
  Electric Doll meths Weeden and meths Bing
  Still missing a few for the whole set .
  
  https://youtu.be/p8MTrdpEd4M
  
  Cheers
  Dennis
  
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• #4 Reply
  Posted by yussufhippo on 24 Dec, 2021 02:18
• Patience, no PATIENCE, PAAATIENCE for .... sake (insert: the well-being of the engine and its owner, of course!) is essential.
  
  Sometimes a little heat and/or a soft tap with a small hammer might help as well. After the soaking.
  
  And try to understand first where exactly a little force should be applied and how - I think that most broken off handles of such engines are simple due to the fact they come so handy....
  
  Nice engines!
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• #5 Reply
  Posted by txlabman on 30 Dec, 2021 08:52
• Wayne:
  
  Take it very slowly.  And don't force it.
  
  Keep spraying a little more penetrating oil on the stuck parts every day for at least a week.
  
  Good luck!
  
  Charlie
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• #6 Reply
  Posted by tenniV11 on 30 Dec, 2021 14:28
• I always steam the engine first - and when it gets hot
  the fittings usually come free.
  And you can also treat them carefully with household lime remover.
  good luck, Arnold
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• #7 Reply
  Posted by komet163b on 31 Dec, 2021 11:34
• Thanks for the replies and advice.
  
    I was able to remove the throttle valve, soak it in
  PB Blaster, heat it up in the oven, fuss with it and
  got it to budge just a smidge.  I knew I had it.  A
  bit more careful fussing, back and forth, and it came
  free.  Of course, I put it back and tested the engine
  on air and it ran, smooth as silk, in a heartbeat.
  It even runs on my 69 year-old breath power.
   
    I'm ordering a steamdome with weighted S/V and a filler
  plug from Germany.  Worth every penny for an engine that runs.
  
    For fun, and a first steamup, I will be using an S/V from a
  Bing engine.  Video soon.
  
  Wayne
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• #8 Reply
  Posted by Woe is me on 01 Jan, 2022 13:55
• I always have good luck with a little heat. Be careful of any wooden or plastic handles.
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