Author Topic: Mini Pan Head V-Twin First Attempt at Start-Up - Cison V2 Now with Part 2 It Runs...!!! (Read 875 times)

RedRyder · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2021, 11:50:13 am »

Quote from: Scorpion2nz on December 04, 2021, 11:20:06 pm

Makes as much noise as a usual Harley and about as reliable
But well done on your perseverance and success

Cheers
Dennis

Hi Dennis, it is actually proving quite reliable with the right voltage.

It now starts easily on demand.

I still have more to learn about it.
An owner's manual would be a big help.

Gil

RedRyder · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2021, 03:58:01 pm »

Here's another quick video....

Mick christie · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2021, 05:03:27 pm »

Turning the distributor wont alter the timing on it at all, its just a wire outlet, the ignition sensor is right behind the cam gear inside the cam chest, its a fixed ignition

RedRyder · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2021, 08:25:09 pm »

Quote from: Mick christie on December 05, 2021, 05:03:27 pm

Turning the distributor wont alter the timing on it at all, its just a wire outlet, the ignition sensor is right behind the cam gear inside the cam chest, its a fixed ignition

Thanks, Mick. Good info. No wonder it didn't seem to make a real difference!

Have you had one apart? If so, how is the inside lubricated aside from placing oil on the cranshaft where it meets the crank case?

Mick christie · « **Reply #19 on:** December 06, 2021, 01:12:43 am »

If u watch this video link it will show u inside the timing chest

RedRyder · « **Reply #20 on:** December 06, 2021, 09:28:39 am »

Thanks, Mick!

RedRyder · « **Reply #21 on:** December 06, 2021, 12:20:42 pm »

Thanks again, Mick. That video is very informative.

Gil

rodnoc · « **Reply #22 on:** December 06, 2021, 03:47:50 pm »

Anyone know if that engine has a single-pin crank?

Junkologist · « **Reply #23 on:** December 06, 2021, 06:50:39 pm »

Quote from: rodnoc on December 06, 2021, 03:47:50 pm

Anyone know if that engine has a single-pin crank?

It does.

gamma13r · « **Reply #24 on:** December 09, 2021, 12:49:34 am »

Hi Gil,
Jon Cook here, thanks for the invite 👋

Your Stirlingkit Panhead is sounding good!

As well as the high speed needle adjustment
there is also a low speed needle adjustment in the center of the throttle arm. It’s a flat head screw.
It’s a very sensitive adjustment; a little goes a long way.
Turning the screw left richens mixture, turning right leans it. Can’t be sure, but your engine sounds a bit rich to me in your video. You’ll definitely know & hear when the carb tune is getting there when the engine is running on both cylinders.

Unfortunately there isn’t a way to adjust ignition timing. The distributor is not functional, it just holds the Hall sensor wire. The distributor looks so real!

The instruction manual is a bit vague. I’ve been talking with Stirlingkit and was advised to add 10ml of 2 stroke oil to the hole where the starter / generator would mount. This oil keeps the cam, crank gear, and tappets lubricated. The upper valve train is lubricated by grease on the rocker arms and also by blow-by.

I’ve got probably 4+ hours on my engine, and as it breaks in, it runs better and better. Definitely a sweet little engine and it sounds incredible.

I’m working on a base for mine, and a set of chrome shorty pipes. 😊

gamma13r · « **Reply #25 on:** December 09, 2021, 07:08:21 pm »

Hey Gil,

I found a perfect running stand for the FG-VT9.

It’s a small vise from… harbor freight 😬

It’s actually perfect though, it has soft rubber jaws, it’s extremely sturdy, articulated and has a vacuum held base.

I’ve been running my engine in my hand, couldn’t bring myself to it in my shop vise.

I went to harbor freight today and bought one after seeing it.
The engine fits perfectly and is safely secure. 👍🤘

https://www.harborfreight.com/2-3-4-quarter-inch-articulated-vacuum-vise-3311.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12169518939&campaignid=12169518939&utm_content=114845717257&adsetid=114845717257&product=3311&store=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA78aNBhAlEiwA7B76pzhvVYkQt-NCHzowPG9moxPxUmyvKwf4ITiDtfZ_zmwXlNCe5JNpmRoCTVIQAvD_BwE

Junkologist · « **Reply #26 on:** December 09, 2021, 09:26:24 pm »

Hey Jon,

Welcome to the forum! We talked a bit in the Stirlingkit FB group. Still waiting for my engine to be shipped.

RedRyder · « **Reply #27 on:** December 09, 2021, 09:27:09 pm »

Thanks for the tips!
I will get one next time I visit HF.
Will likely use Mobil 1 0W-20 or 0W-16 in the crank case.

Gil

gamma13r · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2021, 11:23:29 am »

Hi Mike 👋 Hopefully you’ll get your engine soon!
I know Stirlingkit is getting them out pretty quickly in groups. It’s definitely worth the wait.

gamma13r · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2021, 11:44:31 am »

Gil,

10 mL of a zero-weight oil would be perfect dude.

Let me know once you’ve had time to do more tuning carburetor adjustments,
and how it runs after you’ve slightly leaned out the low-end needle…
I think you’ll immediately see and hear a difference in how your engine runs.

I have also noticed the engine dissipates heat very quickly when using a fan close to the engine.
Anytime I run mine longer than a minute I turn my small shop fan on to keep air blowing towards the engine, and it immediately cools the engine while it’s running.
I’m going to use my temp gun this evening when I run it to get some temperature numbers.

I have been running my engine without the copper pipes, and I was checking to make sure the exhaust valve wasn’t getting too hot, which it wasn’t. I was surprised how cool the engine runs, which is a good thing.

Talk to you guys later, -j

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