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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2022, 02:29:22 pm »
1 - Is the atmospheric intake valve opening?  It could be sticky.

2 - It doesn't appear that the exhaust valve is opening much.  A wide gap affects valve timing.

3 - Pull the plug and see if it is wet.  If so, and you have a compressor, blow out the compression chamber and plug to dry them.

4 - Reset the carb needle to 1/2 turn open (I'm guessing for that engine). If no start, adjust carb needle 1/16 to 1/8 of a turn until you get ignition.

It's all about fuel, compression, and spark.  It seems to have compression and for sure there is spark, so the culprit is fuel.

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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2022, 03:09:43 pm »
I know its frustrating, but it is rare that these engines start on the first attempt.
 
"Some suggestions on your first startup Raphael when you get your engine:
Use the factory settings; the carb needle should be around 1 turn open. After it warms up you can close it a bit to around 7/8th turn closed.

Use a pulley and rope starter if you have one. I actually have never been able to start my engine by hand flipping the flywheels.

Preheat the engine cylinder head with a hair dryer and hot water in the hopper."

Also your fuel tank may be too low. Set it at the same level as the bottom of the engine.
That was a good test of your ignition. Did you notice if it fired at around top dead center? And always be sure you ground the spark plug wire or connect it to the spark plug. If it is not connected to something when it fires, it over stresses the ignition circuit and can destroy it. Good luck!

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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2022, 03:25:01 pm »
Bonjour,

I have never been able to start my Hit & Miss engines the first time either! As the spark is fine, plug not wet, ground screwed on the engine, timing seeming correct, you are right, the issue is the gasoline.

The needle was open about 1/4 turn and I did not heat the cylinder.

Besides this, I have no pulley and would not know where to fiw it on the flywheel, there is no dedicated hole, I have to find something with my drill and a piece of rubber for example.

I guess it would be more bland if everything was too easy... I guess  ;D


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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2022, 03:48:14 pm »
You need to open the needle at least 1 turn. A bit more if you don't preheat the carb and cylinder.
Don't you have a pulley on one of your other Chinese engines? The crankshaft shafts are the same sise so they will fit right on. But you have to move the right side flywheel in. Loosen the four screws on the flywheel clamp about 2-3 turns. Use a small screwdriver (flat blade, - ) to pop the two halves of the clamp apart. Then you should be able to turn and move the flywheel in. That will give you enough room to mount the pulley

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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2022, 05:12:50 pm »
Don’t know if Ron Walters is in this forum but he made a flywheel-glove type widget for starting mini engines.  Maybe it will give you some ideas.

https://tinyurl.com/yckzcud8

https://tinyurl.com/2p97m56f


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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2022, 04:42:10 am »
My one starts all the time by flipping the flywheels by hand. Had no problems at all and that was straight from the box

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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2022, 07:13:42 am »
My one starts all the time by flipping the flywheels by hand. Had no problems at all and that was straight from the box
Take a picture of the needle valve setting.  You’ve hit the lottery with that one.  If it ever goes out of adjustment, you’ll know where it was.

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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2022, 12:37:08 pm »
Bonjour,
Second test, a little explosion when I launch it then... Nothing despite alot of needle positions tests :(
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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2022, 01:33:27 am »
Answers to Questions About ENJOMOR 6cc Antique Red Hit and Miss Gas Engine
https://www.stirlingkit.com/blogs/news/answers-to-questions-about-hit-and-miss-engines

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« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2022, 09:30:15 am »
Update: My engine order from Aliexpress just shipped so the New Year's party must be drawing to a close and people are starting to get back to work.

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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2022, 02:31:45 pm »
I’m seeing signs that at least some of their people didn’t take the second week of holiday. The first week is a national holiday, more or less mandatory. The second week depends on the employer.  The good folks at enginediy.com are reporting that they’re working on some projects this week. 

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« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2022, 01:02:10 pm »
Update: My engine is in the airlines hands at this time, possibly a week yet.
    In the mean time I enjoy watching others discover the difference of how this new model is built.
  The video found on YouTube is interesting, this guy's engine was delivered with a non working governor, he has it working now though not as well as would like.
  The other interesting thing is he says the new cylinder liner is no longer stainless but some type of mild steel that will rust if plain water is used for cooling.
  Also his engine starts well but gets tight as it heats up? I suspect his engine could benifit from a bore polish but difficult to say from just watching the video.
  Also I found a different video where a guy had significant cylinder bore scoring from the wrist pin (old model) is this a common issue? I have considered tapping a set screw from the rear of piston (to keep wrist pin centered) if wrist pin scoring is a common issue...but there may be better ways to address this?
  Thought I would share the video as this is one of the best ways to learn about these engines.



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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2022, 11:46:36 am »
Bonjour,
Third test:

My feed back in the comments of the video  ;)
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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2022, 12:14:53 pm »
Congratulations on getting your nice little engine sorted.
   I can see with how easy it now starts that you have achieved a good state of tune. Also with the engine base firmly clamped down it runs better then allowing the engine to hop around.
   My Enjoymor has cleared customs, so I expect it to be delivered in a few days.

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Re: New Enjomor hit & miss Model
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2022, 02:16:10 am »
My engine (kit) came today, everything that is needed (Except screws) is supplied.
I will need:

4 wood screws to mount engine
2 wood screws to mount battery box
1 metric machine screw to mount fuel tank.
Solder supplies to wire on/off switch.

All the screw holes are pre drilled, if I left the on/off switch out, I believe I could try to start it in under 20 minutes. I will use the on/off switch and have an idea for a simple oil drip pan as the engine cast base has a slot, and the oil drip pan may help keep stray oil from contaminate the electronic's in the wood base. I will post more after I get it assembled and running, it seems to have more compression than the M90

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