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FALK, 145/1 Restoration started
« on: August 18, 2025, 02:25:52 pm »
I quite liked this Joseph Falk that needs some work. It's been painted with some horrible black paint. I have begun to carefully strip it off just using a paint stripper solution ans some Scotchbrite. it's coming off slowly and it's not scratching the boiler I'm just hoping I can get it back to blue. I'll add more photos.

While I can see some bluing it's looks rusty, obviously it's not rust but it has that colour. were the band were it's nice and blue because that area never got paint. 

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2025, 02:42:37 pm »
Good luck with that. I am looking forward to seeing it when you’re done.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2025, 02:53:09 pm »
I'm not sure what I'm goind to do with the boiler. I don't want to polish it, but I've never seen this rust apperance before. I can't leave it like that.

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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2025, 04:37:43 pm »
I would suggest electrolysis as a means to remove the rust.  When you're down to bare metal you can re-blue the boiler.

There are a number of how-to videos on YouTube.  Here's a quick demo: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RoN1CN1Iy8k

Here is are a few more detailed videos:





Best of luck!

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2025, 04:48:22 pm »
Paul, yes I know how to remove rust but I thought these were brass boilers?

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2025, 05:56:59 pm »
I'm not well versed in FALK engines, so I'd have to defer to others about that.  Perhaps this was made during the war when brass was in short supply so steel was used instead?

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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2025, 06:06:52 pm »
I asked Google and this is what they said:

"In addition to the commonly used brass boilers, some Falk toy steam engines did incorporate steel into their boilers.

While brass was a popular and cost-effective choice for early toy steam engines, steel was also used, particularly in later models or specific designs where its strength and durability were desired.

Steel boilers, though more expensive to manufacture than brass, offered increased strength and could potentially provide better support for other engine components."

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Re: FALK, 145/1 Restoration started
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2025, 06:20:44 pm »
Sorry for the multiple posts...I'm getting obsessed about this rust issue.

Here is another Falk engine that has similar though less severe rust: https://i.etsystatic.com/15447190/r/il/09192e/6663786440/il_1588xN.6663786440_ceke.jpg

I suspect the black paint exasperated the rust issue on your 145/1, compared to this engine.


The overtop engine in the photo is for sale for $226.77, if anyone's interested:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1863848098/antique-early-josef-falk-jf-toy-steam

Enough for now, I've got to organize supper.  Best of luck!

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Re: FALK, 145/1 Restoration started
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2025, 07:35:57 pm »
Love threads like this, take heaps of pics...... Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2025, 08:29:02 pm »
Just put a magnet up against that boiler. If it is iron or steel that will tell you in a hurry!
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Re: FALK, 145/1 Restoration started
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2025, 06:47:03 am »
Never heard of a Falk with a steel boiler, especially on a larger model like this. I believe you are seeing brass where the bluing has worn through which gives the appearance of rust.

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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2025, 07:25:53 am »
I belive that the boiler is made from brass - but there could
be surface rust caused by improper storage in an "iron-rich" environment.
Only solution would be sanding and new blueing.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2025, 11:29:16 am »
Good luck with your work and the magnet test.  Pray for brass.
I have a Weeden pumper with a steel boiler but it is really cheap,
tinny, junk and RUSTED THROUGH on the bottom.  I tried to resolder\
it but it was hopeless.  I run it on air.

I think I was watching this engine on an auction site.  Which
one was it on?

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2025, 11:41:01 am »
One thing to keep in mind is that in the firearms industry, the bluing that is applied to barrels, actions and other parts is known as "Rust Bluing" and so quite possibly could revert to a rust appearance if stored in an inappropriate environment, even if the boiler is in fact brass. It could well be that it is just the bluing that has returned to rust!?!?
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2025, 01:16:39 pm »
Using a magnet is an obvious and brilliant suggestion.  Shame on me for not thinking of that.

Eager to see progress as you tackle this project.  My budget has been zero lately, so I'm enjoying the hobby vicariously through others.