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UP BIG BOY 4014 - FT WORTH TX
« on: October 11, 2024, 12:24:09 pm »
Today I went and saw the 4014 Big Boy in person. I plan on chasing it north when it departs this weekend.  The beauty of it in person is unbelievable!!!! I’ve seen it before but it’s been a LONG time. I found myself staring at it for about an hour. They blew the whistle a few times as well, will upload a video for this later.

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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2024, 02:27:07 pm »
Impressive beast, good photo of you as well, enjoy.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2024, 04:27:24 pm »
Impressive beast, good photo of you as well, enjoy.

It’s a BEHEMOTH!  It’s such an amazing feat of engineering. To think one of these has the horsepower of 3 or 4 diesel locomotives. And they’d sometimes use 3 of them!!

Thanks for the comment! 
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2024, 06:47:07 pm »
Just an amazing piece of human engineering to design, fabricate and put that beast together and it all works in engineering harmony.

Terrific it's been kept and not scrapped at some point in time and lost to history.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2024, 10:02:47 pm »
Just an amazing piece of human engineering to design, fabricate and put that beast together and it all works in engineering harmony.

Terrific it's been kept and not scrapped at some point in time and lost to history.

I’d like to know how they cast and machined all the parts.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2024, 10:14:07 pm »
Just an amazing piece of human engineering to design, fabricate and put that beast together and it all works in engineering harmony.

Terrific it's been kept and not scrapped at some point in time and lost to history.

I’d like to know how they cast and machined all the parts.

All American jobs, the foundries must have been working overtime.
The West has lost all these jobs, Australia since last year no longer makes any cars.

Just looking at this photo of yours of just a small section....literally mind blowing when you look intricately and study all the parts -

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2024, 12:13:29 am »
Just an amazing piece of human engineering to design, fabricate and put that beast together and it all works in engineering harmony.

Terrific it's been kept and not scrapped at some point in time and lost to history.

I’d like to know how they cast and machined all the parts.

Here's a video showing the construction of a reasonably large British locomotive of the 1930's. The big USA manufacturers were more modernized and were typically building much bigger locomotives, like the Big Boy, but the processes were much the same.

https://youtu.be/NPACAt8aE4U?si=eMwzVNQdPsfwkloR

Just to boggle the modern mind, I will say that Alco, Baldwin and Lima were building whole "fleets" of locomotives simultaneously, and even the biggest engines were built in a matter of just a few months ..... or less!
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2024, 12:51:20 am »
Just an amazing piece of human engineering to design, fabricate and put that beast together and it all works in engineering harmony.

Terrific it's been kept and not scrapped at some point in time and lost to history.

I’d like to know how they cast and machined all the parts.

Here's a video showing the construction of a reasonably large British locomotive of the 1930's. The big USA manufacturers were more modernized and were typically building much bigger locomotives, like the Big Boy, but the processes were much the same.

https://youtu.be/NPACAt8aE4U?si=eMwzVNQdPsfwkloR

Just to boggle the modern mind, I will say that Alco, Baldwin and Lima were building whole "fleets" of locomotives simultaneously, and even the biggest engines were built in a matter of just a few months ..... or less!


Once you have a full blueprint of a completed locomotive and its build
Specs and a crew of
Machinists you can get it done fast.  The 1st build takes
The longest, then testing.


Forgot to add, all the Moulds for the castings.   Basically have it setup as an erector set on an assembly line, piece of cake as long as the supplies were coming in.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2024, 10:17:04 am »
I saw 4014 when it came thru Illinois last month. It's a beast! Amazing how this engine is over 80 YO, and still looks relatively "new".
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2024, 11:07:14 am »
Just an amazing piece of human engineering to design, fabricate and put that beast together and it all works in engineering harmony.

Terrific it's been kept and not scrapped at some point in time and lost to history.

I’d like to know how they cast and machined all the parts.

Here's a video showing the construction of a reasonably large British locomotive of the 1930's. The big USA manufacturers were more modernized and were typically building much bigger locomotives, like the Big Boy, but the processes were much the same.

https://youtu.be/NPACAt8aE4U?si=eMwzVNQdPsfwkloR

Just to boggle the modern mind, I will say that Alco, Baldwin and Lima were building whole "fleets" of locomotives simultaneously, and even the biggest engines were built in a matter of just a few months ..... or less!


Once you have a full blueprint of a completed locomotive and its build
Specs and a crew of
Machinists you can get it done fast.  The 1st build takes
The longest, then testing.


Forgot to add, all the Moulds for the castings.  Basically have it setup as an erector set on an assembly line, piece of cake as long as the supplies were coming in.

Not quite as simple as that, as they'd also likely be simultaneously building half a dozen or more other engines of different classes and sizes with different specifications, either singly or in smaller groups, so the machinists and machine tooling would need be switched often between different jobs and same goes for the casting and forging processes.

As example, in 1921 Baldwin produced hundreds of different locomotives in several different sizes and gauges, for many different Railroads and even different Countries, including almost 100 in three different classes for Argentina alone. Late in the fall of 1921 Baldwin took an order from the Southern Pacific Railroad for 50 heavy freight haulers of the 2-10-2 class engine and had them all delivered by mid-Spring 1922, all while building many other locomotives of different sizes and gauges for many different customers. These SP "Sante Fe" Type 2-10-2's, while not as big as a Big Boy Articulated, were in fact truly huge locomotives by any common standard!

Perhaps I should even add to the complexity of these astonishing accomplishments by mentioning that these large locomotive builders continued with unbelievable locomotive output during WWI & WWII, while also retooling and regearing to produce such diverse war material as M1917 Rifles by the millions, Sherman Tanks and a vast assortment of other needful material requiring the casting, forging and machining capabilities and capacities of the heaviest of industries!

I am quite certain that America is incapable of such feats of manufacturing here now, 100 years hence!!!
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2024, 11:32:41 pm »


I am quite certain that America is incapable of such feats of manufacturing here now, 100 years hence!!!

It's pretty depressing isn't mate? The GREATEST GENERATION ever, fought for our freedoms and the life that we enjoy because of their sacrifices and all the politicians of all the Western Powers sold us down the road.

None of our countries now have any manufacturing in any capacity like what we did. Everything is now imported even our medications come from China or India.

When the shit hits the fan (and it will) and all our supply lines are cut, boy are we gonna' know it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2024, 11:58:22 pm »


I am quite certain that America is incapable of such feats of manufacturing here now, 100 years hence!!!

It's pretty depressing isn't mate? The GREATEST GENERATION ever fought for our freedoms and the life that we enjoy because of their sacrifices and all the politicians of all the Western Powers sold us down the road.

None of countries now have any manufacturing in any capacity like what we did. Everything is now imported even our medications come from China or India.

When the shit hits the fan (and it will) and all our supply lines are cut, boy are we gonna' know it.

Well said and all too true!!!
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