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Tony Bird

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Winter is coming.
« on: October 14, 2019, 03:12:14 am »
Hi,

Its getting cooler, the nights are drawing in so, before the leaves really start to fall the easily removable sections of the Rhydypenau Garden Railway have been lifted and stored in the garage.

Spring.
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Until Spring.
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Regards Tony.

Steamandoil (Tim)

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Re: Winter is coming.
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2019, 10:35:01 am »
Nice setup and planning. Iím thinking of starting a front yard set up that may come in over winters. Nothing elaborate though, just a simple loop for steaming- probably 60ft or so.
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Tony Bird

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Re: Winter is coming.
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2019, 02:35:50 am »
Hi Tim,

Iím thinking of starting a front yard set up that may come in over winters. Nothing elaborate though, just a simple loop for steaming- probably 60 ft or so.

If you decide to build a garden railway this might help.  I have built several garden railways and portable layouts, I find the most difficult part is deciding the type of track base and material to make it.  I assume as you hope to be able raise the track that it will be raised above ground if only a little.  The track bed I used in my garden consists of 20 mm (3/4") marine or exterior plywood which was painted and then covered with roofing felt.  It is laid loose being supported at points on strips of 6 mm (1/4") PVC pads to give a non absorbent support and create an air gap.  The track bed support in my case is either paving slabs around a circular planter and a length of wall and a couple of columns all being caped with paving slabs.  Usually the track bed on these stays down but if it is removed the garden still looks OK. It is usually only the track bed fitted with legs or bridging the path that is lifted during Winter.  A couple of photographs taken during construction.

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Steamandoil (Tim)

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Re: Winter is coming.
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2019, 11:16:36 am »
Wow Tony thatís good info. I was starting to think about the road bed. I plan to run 25ft on a ground level porch, then transition into the yard. There I will have to dig a little to lessen the transition grade. I like the marine ply idea as curves can be cut! I may lay pavers with ply on top. Any idea how to ballast over the concrete porch and keeping it from scattering all over?
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Tim
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Tony Bird

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Re: Winter is coming.
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2019, 02:52:03 am »
Hi Tim,

I have used ballast on the portable layouts I have made just glued to the boards but have relied on the mineral finish on the roofing felt for appearance on the garden railways made.  Ballast on a garden railway which looks great can cause maintenance problems, freezing can cause it to break up and if it gets loose rain can cause it to jump up higher than the track.  It is also more difficult to clean however a lot of garden railways use it both glued and loose and it does look well.  If you intend to run steam locomotives and you can arrange the track maybe only a short length to be high as possible it will help in working on the locomotive and putting bogie stock on the tracks.

I hope this might help.

Tony.

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Re: Winter is coming.
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 06:57:14 am »
That is a lovely railway set up, Tony!


I recall as a young boy around age 5-6-7, trying to convince my parents we should assemble the American Flyer on our dining table with the flatbed cars to deliver the salt, pepper, sugar, cream, and other condiments to whomever requested them by rail. I think they took a look at me pushing the envelope (on the floor) with enough speed enough that the train tipped over repeatedly on the curves.


Gil

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Re: Winter is coming.
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 09:00:35 am »
Thatís a funny story Gil!
Once again, thanks Tony. I am considering raising the proposed layout now. Possibly using deck pillars holding 4x4s. This set up would be easier maintained as well as removable. Still turning it all in my head over winter.
Cheers
Tim
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